Carlotta Gall concludes in new book that Pakistan fueled the insurgency in Afghanistan
On the Radar
What if the United States has been waging the wrong war against the wrong enemy for the last 13 years in Afghanistan?
Pulitzer
Prize-winning New York Times journalist Carlotta Gall, who spent more
than a decade covering Afghanistan since 2001, concludes just that in
her new book, “The Wrong Enemy: America in Afghanistan, 2001-2014.”
Gall told “On the Radar” that Pakistan – not Afghanistan – has been the United States’ real enemy.
“Instead
of fighting a very grim and tough war which was very high in casualties
on Afghans, as well as NATO and American soldiers, the problem wasn't
in the Afghan villages,” Gall said. “The source of the problem, the
radicalization, the sponsoring of the insurgency, was all happening in
Pakistan.”Gall said she first had the realization that Pakistan was fueling the insurgency in Afghanistan “very soon” after the Sept. 11 attacks.
“I went to Quetta
and found Taliban resting up there and regrouping,” she said. “They had
assistance, some of them talked about being forced and threatened and
told to go in and fight the Americans … and when you're there, on the
ground, seeing every bombing, the suicide bombing had started, the
insurgency that grew, and you investigate where it's coming from, it
kept leading back to Pakistan.”
Gall said that Pakistan’s leaders,
and especially former President Pervez Musharraf, were “very clever”
and tricked the United States into believing that Pakistan was an ally.“I think the politicians, not all of them, but the diplomats … it took ages for them to understand that actually the persuasion wasn't working; the engagement wasn't bringing them on board; they were actually double dealing,” she said. “And now diplomats will tell you very plainly, ‘Yes, Musharraf was double dealing.’”
Perhaps
the biggest betrayal of all in the U.S.-Pakistani relationship, and one
that came as no surprise to Gall, was the fact that bin Laden found
shelter in Abbottabad, Pakistan, for six years before he was killed in a
Navy SEAL raid in 2011. And, according to Gall, Pakistan’s government
was orchestrating his protection.
“Pakistan did know,” Gall said,
speaking about bin Laden’s location. “They were hiding him, they were
handling him. Someone on the inside told me this. They had a special
desk that knew where bin Laden was.“Not only that, but put him there, protected him, oversaw him, handled him in the terms of the secret intelligence services,” she added. “And it's all deniable, but I’m told the top bosses knew.”
Despite
the awareness of Pakistan’s “double dealing” today, Gall said that
relations with Pakistan are no better now than in the past.
“Our
relations with Pakistan have gone back to the same thing, and the thing
that concerns me is that Zawahiri is still out there, in Pakistan, I
believe,” she said. “He is also probably being hidden the same way and
protected.”
For more of the
interview with Gall, including her concerns for the future of
Afghanistan as foreign military assistance is withdrawn, check out this
episode of “On the Radar.”
ABC News’ Tom Thornton, Alexandra Dukakis, Chris Carlson, and Vicki Vennell contributed to this episode.

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